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 #1 What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 07/09/2010 @ 14:14 |
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pretty much exactly what the title says i've decided i think i need a 7.5 and i wanna go try a few pairs out in some shops but i wondered what company's do half sizes cheers people |
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| #2 Re: What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 07/09/2010 @ 15:29 |
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Think my Salomons are size 4.5 Ruben so I'd say Salomon 
But honestly, I wouldn't worry about what size it says on the boot too much. Different makes come up different sizes so you could be a 7 or an 8 or stil a 7.5. Just go and try loads of boots on, maybe get to one of the big shows (NEC / Olympia) and go with the ones that fit the best regardless of what size it says on the tongue  |
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| #3 Re: What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 07/09/2010 @ 16:57 |
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Yeh I agree with Iggie, but for what it's worth I have found the Burton sizing / last to be very accurate (for me).
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& yes they do half sizes btw. |
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| #4 Re: What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 07/09/2010 @ 17:07 |
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Yeah I agree, if you're gonna get some, try 'em all on first if possible. Cos I found that Salomon were very tight in my size whereas Burton were pretty big. For basics, I found Salomon the smallest, then D.C., Vans, ThirtyTwo and finally Burton were largest.
Hope this was useful...
Wheeler. |
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| #5 Re: What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 07/09/2010 @ 17:26 |
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Shoe size means absolutely nothing to a proper boot fitter. The standard sizing used is mondo point which is a length measurement of your foot. The boot companies then correspond this to what they think the shoe size should be. Across the board i am a 25.5 in both ski and snowboard boots...my shoe size is a 8.5 UK ( i think) but a 25.5 is meant to be a 7 to 7.5 UK (if i remember correctly!).
But to answer your questions, any good boot company will do half sizes. The only time they may not have every half size is when the mondo point falls in between 2 sizes (ie Salomon boots in a 29.5 mondo point are written as a 11-11.5 US). |
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| #6 Re: What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 08/09/2010 @ 12:31 |
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| #7 Re: What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 08/09/2010 @ 19:20 |
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QUOTE (cossie - 08/09/2010 @ 12:31) Hmmm, useful stuff to know. I wonder whether this applies to different widths too as I'm getting some new boots this season. My Burton Rulers were the best fit for me out of Burtons,32's,DC's and Vans I tried. Didn't even entertain Salomons. I was told to go for Burtons because of my wide feet and to be fair they're really comfy. Even better once TSA put some J pads for free for me. 
I thought J Pads were supposed to be to help once your boot starts packing out or if you bought a size too big. I would have thought it made more sense to get a pair of boots that fit really well to begin with than trying to use things to make it fit better.
I remember Burton used to (don't know if they still do) give away J Bars with their boots, which went on the outside of the liner on a velcro section. I tried them once and they create horrible pressure points.
As for the OP.
I believe the majority of boots are available in half-sizes, Burton and Salomon certainly are. Again, you need to try them to see which actually works for you. For example I'm a 9.5 UK, and a Burton 9.5 UK fits me, however with Salomon I need a 10 UK. |
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| #8 Re: What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 08/09/2010 @ 20:45 |
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My boots are 4 years old.They fitted perfectly from new hence the need for J bars last year. |
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- Our attitude toward life determines life's attitude towards us -
- Better to do something imperfectly than to do nothing flawlessly - |
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| #9 Re: What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 08/09/2010 @ 20:46 |
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Don't focus on the size just try on as many boots as you can as they all fit differenlty! 
Your boots are the most important bit of kit and yiu need them to fit perfectly otherwise you'll just end up in agongy all day and it won't be fun! |
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| #10 Re: What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 09/09/2010 @ 13:05 |
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Half sizes are a myth. Most companies these days vary half sizes with either the thickness of the footbed or by using a volume reducer. Those companies that do use different sized liners are moving away from it as when the liner packs it packs into the shell size making the extra effort to find a half pretty useless. Check the sizing by mondo point as that's how most companies determine full and half sizes and go for the smaller of the two as volume can be added quite easily. |
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| #11 Re: What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 09/09/2010 @ 15:10 |
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So Grill,This is where I,m at, if you can help at all.
I am riding a 27.5cm dialogue wide in salomon authentic range (not f- series) and feet measured 27.5 on a brannock, weighted, knees bent,one foot is tiny bit smaller though, say 27cm .
So you say I could go too a 27cm boot and get some pro work done from a ski boot fitter for volume.
(I will pay one I know of,a sole professional ski boot fitter with certificates out in bicester or bartlets but not, snow and rock or tsa or the fulham outfit.)
I,m not in france so can,t stop in but have had four footbeds around the world,3 were utter rubbish so far said pro-certified fitter but he does not stock snowbrd boots you see.
This 1/2 size downsizing combined with pro fitting,is this the senario you have described with salomons liners mentioned .
Additionally Im using the salomon wide model at pres so could go up to a wide synapse as the malamute is too narrow which is a real shame, as good boot with inner strap.
If you can advise further on width fiitting issues it would be a big help too.
I measure up about 110mm BF to 115mm FF wide but feel this most likely gets bigger with heat and all day riding.
Around 60 days a season more or less in resort,bit of hiking and split stuff,i,m not light at 110kg with pack.
I was sized 28cm for years, many wrong boots and much pain, hence now progressing but know it could be better still. |
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| #12 Re: What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 09/09/2010 @ 16:52 |
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27 and 27.5 are the same size. the only difference between the two is the thickness of the footbed. All you need to do is put a 3-5mm volume reducer between the shell and liner of your smaller foot. |
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| #13 Re: What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 10/09/2010 @ 19:29 |
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Ok,Thanks Grill, few more details...So to recap-.Salomon 27/27,5cm shell and liner is exactly same lenght,volume and width , except for removable sole thickness is different,...correct, right?...
What does my forefoot width indicate in boot choice,... with one foot at 110mm and other at 115mm wide?
Would you think using a wide boot as in salomon wide is the only choice?
OR..
Is 110-115mm not that wide a foot and other brands may be comfortable with heat molding at 27/27,5 mondo.... Lashed,Decade for example etc
Would the lesser heel gap in a salomon snowboard boot shell be 15mm... or what range?
Has anyone ever widened a malamute boot, is it possible with softboots too stretch lenght or width?
That should do it.. |
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| #14 Re: What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 15/09/2010 @ 13:58 |
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Grill can you advise further on above at all. |
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| #15 Re: What boot companies do half sizes? Posted 15/09/2010 @ 14:18 |
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QUOTE (recon - 10/09/2010 @ 19:29) Ok,Thanks Grill, few more details...So to recap-.Salomon 27/27,5cm shell and liner is exactly same lenght,volume and width , except for removable sole thickness is different,...correct, right?...
Yes.
QUOTE (recon - 10/09/2010 @ 19:29) What does my forefoot width indicate in boot choice,... with one foot at 110mm and other at 115mm wide?
Nothing. The width of your foot when weighted (which is how you measured) is arbitrary as proper support will change the width as it is generally due to pronation.
QUOTE (recon - 10/09/2010 @ 19:29) Would you think using a wide boot as in salomon wide is the only choice? OR.. Is 110-115mm not that wide a foot and other brands may be comfortable with heat molding at 27/27,5 mondo.... Lashed,Decade for example etc
There is no reason to look at a specifically wide boot until you have stabilized the foot and sorted support issues. After that you can decide on the boots with confidence.
QUOTE (recon - 10/09/2010 @ 19:29) Would the lesser heel gap in a salomon snowboard boot shell be 15mm... or what range? Has anyone ever widened a malamute boot, is it possible with softboots too stretch lenght or width? That should do it..
Heel gap? what are you on about? Lift?
You can widen any liner (fusion being a small exception), but stretching the length tears the stitching as does any large shell modification. The Malamute liner can be played with no problem. In terms of gaining length, a low volume footbed such as a Superfeet Black or Sidas Race can do it. Realistically you should be fine with any quality footbed as long as you're in the correct shell size. |
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