Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?

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  Thread Started By:   snowmike   On:   Tuesday 10/02/2009 @ 19:23 Show Newest First    
inactive_16115
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  #16  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 12/02/2009 @ 12:28
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nope me neither, have you seen all the glossy techy stuff they sell for skiiers??
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dants
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North Yorkshire
  #17  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 12/02/2009 @ 12:48
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I'm pretty sure that at the lower end of the ranges an unbranded board is little different from the higher price entry level stuff from the big boys. Top end's a different matter, but I reckon if you lined up a blank board from an OEM like Pale next to entry level K2, Burton, Ride etc it'd be tricky to tell the difference and there's every chance it could be better BUT would you want to take that risk?

If you're just getting in to the game and you don't care about brands etc then your money's probably going to be best spent buying a decent pair of boots that fit well and don't look like they'll perish any time soon and spend what's left on a hire board for the next couple of trips. Then you can decided if it's worth risking a Pale board or not.
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snowmike
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  #18  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 12/02/2009 @ 23:15
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Thanks for all the replies ladies and gents. Nice to see a well used and supported forum

I'll start with good boots and take it from there....
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mea00csf
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West Yorkshire
  #19  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 13/02/2009 @ 12:40
Also just because somethings made in the same factory as ,say, Burton, doesn't mean it will be of the same quality or smiliar design. They'll use different techniques, different materials, different bonding processes etc which will make huge differences.
Dick Dastardly was right, don't just stand there, do something
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bornfishy
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County Antrim
  #20  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 13/02/2009 @ 17:32
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QUOTE (mea00csf - 13/02/2009 @ 12:40)

Also just because somethings made in the same factory as ,say, Burton, doesn't mean it will be of the same quality or smiliar design. They'll use different techniques, different materials, different bonding processes etc which will make huge differences.

Exactly! If I had a quid for every time my skier boss tells me my Seven is made in the same factory as a ton of other cheaper, essentially unbranded boards, I'd be rich, but still as pissed off.

It's not that simple!
Don't be a patsy.
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inactive_16115
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  #21  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 13/02/2009 @ 17:35
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Half those Gucci bags that are sold on ebay are made in the same factory as the real ones and have you seen the state of them? No...oh just me then....

One factory can make a hell of a lot of different things, sometimes companies buy up the old board press from other companies and run some off, will they be as good as the originals though...hmmmm
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bornfishy
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County Antrim
  #22  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 13/02/2009 @ 17:39
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QUOTE (inactive_16115 - 13/02/2009 @ 17:35)

Half those Gucci bags that are sold on ebay are made in the same factory as the real ones and have you seen the state of them? No...oh just me then....

One factory can make a hell of a lot of different things, sometimes companies buy up the old board press from other companies and run some off, will they be as good as the originals though...hmmmm

That's a good point. As anybody who owns of those bags will tell you, there's an awful lot to be said for the knowledge that yours is the real deal, even disregarding the fact it's usually better quality!

That said, beyond just knowing your board is decent, some of the stuff we get into the shop is just shocking. I've no idea why people will pay x amount of money to get a board serviced, then pay board carriage, knowing the total of those two is more than they paid for the board, and more than they'd pay to rent a much better board.
Don't be a patsy.
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inactive_16115
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  #23  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 13/02/2009 @ 17:43
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Tell that to my other half., shes obsessed and every bag she buys that was made over night in the factory where Gucci make the real ones arrives covered in glue!
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bornfishy
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County Antrim
  #24  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 13/02/2009 @ 17:45
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QUOTE (inactive_16115 - 13/02/2009 @ 17:43)

Tell that to my other half., shes obsessed and every bag she buys that was made over night in the factory where Gucci make the real ones arrives covered in glue!

Haha. That's really interesting actually, I never knew that's how the majority are made.
Don't be a patsy.
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inactive_16115
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  #25  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 13/02/2009 @ 17:50
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Loads of factories end up running off 'extras' during the night, same designs, same machines, same staff and often the same materials, just thrown together in half the time and then sold on ebay! Well made they ain't!

Doubt this would happen with snowboards though, its factories in south east Asia that do it mainly. No reason why snowboards cant be made the same way in the same factory but with older technology, cheaper materials and less care though.
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chiburi
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  #26  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 03/01/2010 @ 20:41
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If it means you can go snowboarding then it's worth it. A freestyle board will get wrecked anyway. I'm looking at one just to wreck in my local snow dome. It's not gonna last more than year but neither is any other board if you're really going for it on rails. At the end of the day unless you're really on the edge the subtle difference in the build of the board will make no difference. I learnt on a crap board over 20 years ago all it means is that you learn to ride better if your board is less forgiving.
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davidarmstrong
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  #27  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 05/03/2010 @ 20:03
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I bought one of these boards from one of the websites shops ( Longtown near Carlisle) the only boards i can compare it with are a 158 Rossignol board i had for 2 days of lessons at Chill factore and a differrant Rossignol 158 board i had for a week in Poiana Brasov. i used my Pale board 164 at Pamporovo for a week , on the first day i thought it was a little more difficult to turn than the rossignol,s but that could be down to the longer length of my board or mabye just the fact that i,m just above the level of beginner, that is i can do linked turns ,but no jumps , nothing fancy ,yet , just cruising down steep blues and easy reds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hope this helps.. take care stay safe , have fun
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davidarmstrong
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  #28  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 05/03/2010 @ 20:12
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I forgot to mention i also bought Rossignol boots £65 and Rossignol bindings also £65 and a padded board bag £29.99 and wax (2 pack)£1.99and an edge file £7.99 and a set of edge protectors £7.99and a leash £2.50 all from the same shop the board was £119.99 that makes a grand total of er! er! er ! £300.45 .
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teadrinker
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  #29  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 05/07/2010 @ 18:00
Sorry to bump an old thread but I thought I would let you guys know that I've been riding the same cheap as chips crazy creek boots from sport muller in germany for the last three years and they are far better than the burton rentals you can get from tammy.
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wayneelliott
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  #30  Re: Pale Snowboards - What's the crack?  Posted 12/06/2011 @ 05:06
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ok. so i know this post thread is made in 2009 and anything i say is probably irrellivent but... I own a pale 'swing' board. its was my first board which i bought second hand but in good condition. Ive had it for about 4 years as ive progressed. Ive since upgraded to a ride antic.

Its a directional twin with a directional flex traditional camber and a slightly set back stance. sintered base (although not sure of the grade) and a full wood core. the lateral flex (bend with the toes) at a guess is medium and the longitudinal flex (tip to tip) is stiff. trying to do a manual on this thing is near impossible and ollies arent the easiest either. although this may be due to its age as most newer boards have all the good tech in them like carbon rods etc.

Having never ridden another board before i bought this one, I found it to be good but not very forgiving. catching an edge was a common occurance. again the older design and tech would have added to the learning curve for a beginner rider that i was. At speed it is smooth and stable which is what i think this board is good for. at slower speeds it isn't the nicest transition from edge to edge. overall I recommend getting a more mainstream brand with some better tech. The Swing snowboard that I own is 'alright' but if your wanting to carry on developing as a boarder then spend the cash on a better one. especially if your inclined to pick boarding up very quickly and you out grow your purchase in 1 or 2 seasons.

hope this helps anyone
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