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 #1 New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 30/01/2010 @ 18:13 |
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Just bought a Lumix TZ7 as a quick P&S option to carrying my DSLR on the hill..
Philw, I have a Sigma F2.8 200mm lens and ive think you've said these long lenses are no good for snowboarding? Why? If so what should i have instead? Im keen to get better but only as a hobby and not for any income.. |
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| #2 Re: New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 30/01/2010 @ 18:39 |
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Probably because of the DOF you get from a long focal length, and it requires some skilled panning generally to get the rider in shot. I personally like the challenge, and use a 70-300mm lens for shooting motorsport and get on fine.
Those Lumix P&S's are superb, however my preference is Canon Ixus. |
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| #3 Re: New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 30/01/2010 @ 19:00 |
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I have a TZ7, and it is the perfect lightweight alternative to my DSLR. The optical length gives you great DOF, 720p movie capture is very welcomed, and it still fits snugly in your pocket. Color capture is amazing, and the controls are designed for fast access.
However I have not yet used it on the hill, so how it performs in sub -10 temperatures remains to be seen.
I bought the TZ7 to replace my 5mp Ixus  |
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| #4 Re: New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 30/01/2010 @ 19:11 |
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Thanks guys,
Whats should i use then for my DSLR lens wise.. Im thinking of a 17-70mm Sigma F2.8 or am i better just getting a wide angle...
(My other sigma lens is the 70-200mm F2.8 HSM 2 - its pretty weighty.. )
I'll give the panning a go..i can only get better with practice..
Im gonna give phils chest pack mularky a go.. |
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| #5 Re: New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 30/01/2010 @ 21:41 |
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QUOTE (wesdev - 30/01/2010 @ 18:13) I have a Sigma F2.8 200mm lens and ive think you've said these long lenses are no good for snowboarding? Why? If so what should i have instead?
I'm not sure I'd have said "no good", but they're not ideal. The problem with long lenses is that you get no background, it's not a depth of field issue. So if you're shooting (say) a race, then a long lens is fine as you can't get close and at least you can fill the frame. But after a while you'll find that shots of people boarding against a plain white background are not hugely interesting. Find a good magazine and take a look - see how many shots of people riding get published which don't have a background.
Most people would use something wider, and get closer. The reason is that with a wider lens you can include some background, and that's what it's about: rider + background. If you're shooting something fixed (like a jump), then you may want to go seriously wider like a 15mm fish, for example. Those you can get as close as you dare, usually you hold the camera out, away from your eye, and worry about not getting hit. If you're shooting wide then you need to be with people who are able to ride close to you safely.
Just my view. A 200mm/22.8 would be great for lots of things, but would not be my first choice for boarding. I usually ride with a 24-70 for general use and then a 14mmm for stuff when I know precisely where people are going to be.
(Which reminds me... anyone want to buy a perfect condition Canon 15mm Fisheye lens? I bought a 14mm rectilinear some months ago and can't be bothered to carry both, so the 15mm's heading for ebay in due course. |
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| #6 Re: New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 31/01/2010 @ 14:26 |
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Phil,
I would have got that if i wasnt rocking Sony gear...
Is there any other way around getting a fish eye effect other than buying an expensive lens you would use once in a while?
are these any good...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Digital-King-Super-Macro-Pentax/dp/B002ECVL4G |
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| #7 Re: New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 31/01/2010 @ 20:41 |
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Im also the owner of a TZ7 and love the camera its a handy pocket size and is easier than lumping around an slr all the time, it takes great HD movie footage and great great stills, couldnt reccomend it enough |
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| #8 Re: New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 31/01/2010 @ 22:54 |
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Things you stick on the front of your lens... well they will not be high quality, but they may be enough... perhaps you could find some shots taken with them by real people on line, and see if you think the quality's what you're looking for.
You can sort of "fish" things in Photoshop very easily - use the filter -> distort -> lens correction tool and you can pin-cushion or barrel distort things (usually you'd be getting rid of those things, but the tool works both ways).
Mostly I think people are after the width more than the fish, and if you're not careful too much "fish" can get tiring really quickly. |
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| #9 Re: New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 01/02/2010 @ 01:02 |
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| #10 Re: New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 10/02/2010 @ 23:13 |
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its fine on the hill. just used it myself for the first time and its an ORSUM camera  |
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| #11 Re: New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 11/02/2010 @ 12:24 |
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Have you still got the fisheye Phil and how much are you asking for it? |
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| #12 Re: New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 11/02/2010 @ 14:14 |
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Phil, I was going to ask the same as the poster above. How much for the fisheye. Too rich for my blood I imagine as I am only just starting off on the DSLR route, but worth an ask.
On teh subject, I had my first go at getting some park shots in Mayrhofen last week. I stationed myself near the big kickers in the Vans park and tried to get different angles. What you say about background is true, but I found it almost impossible to get any decent background as it is kind of in a valley, and therefore every shot is against a plain mountain backdrop. It just doesn't have much impact. Any tips for getting kilelr park shots? I am away again in March and want to get some of my mates. |
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| #13 Re: New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 11/02/2010 @ 14:22 |
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| #14 Re: New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 11/02/2010 @ 15:31 |
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QUOTE (Stooza - 11/02/2010 @ 14:14) On teh subject, I had my first go at getting some park shots in Mayrhofen last week. I stationed myself near the big kickers in the Vans park and tried to get different angles. What you say about background is true, but I found it almost impossible to get any decent background as it is kind of in a valley, and therefore every shot is against a plain mountain backdrop. It just doesn't have much impact. Any tips for getting kilelr park shots? I am away again in March and want to get some of my mates.
In that situation you need to concentrate on your composition and make the shot interesting that way. Try and find an interesting/different angle and get as creative as possible. Don't try and shoot in flat light either. |
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| #15 Re: New Lumix TZ7 to supplement my DSLR Posted 11/02/2010 @ 22:50 |
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I wish I knew the answer to that one, especially in dodgy light. I just spent two weeks in BC and didn't have any decent light on any day there, which was a bit problematic for riding shots. Some days it just doesn't work. At home, if the light's crap I don't shoot... the same thing kind of works on snow too. Ok, really good people can probably do things with crap light, but my excuse is "it is what it is": if it looks crap to the eye, it will look crap on my camera.
What he said sounds like a good idea. I'm not really a park person, but I think it would help if you "get" what you're shooting. So you'll shoot rails better if you actually think rails look cool, if you see what I mean. Then, it's hard to get too close, although if the riders are unreliable then you definitely don't want to do that. For small stuff I will generally hold my camera out so I can get it close and low. Bigger stuff you don't need to do that, although it's hard if the rider gets too small in the frame. Probably the best bet is to look at the pictures in the magazines and copy the approach there. If your camera has a built in flash you can maybe play with that as fill also, although that has it's own challenges. |
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