Hey I'm New - Help where to buy Binding Rotation Device..

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  Thread Started By:   mojo_tony   On:   Wednesday 25/01/2012 @ 00:05 Show Newest First    
philw
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UK - England
  #16  Re: Binding Rotation Devices are the dumbest thing ever  Posted 25/01/2012 @ 16:47
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QUOTE (CatLikeFelix - 25/01/2012 @ 16:24)

What a load of rubbish. Lots of people buy a board for their first trip/session (me included). And I know plenty of very, very good riders that have never had a lesson in their lives.

Please don't selectively quote me - if you're going to take words out of context then you may as well just make a quote up yourself and then argue with that.

I never had a lesson or rented a board myself, but my situation is a bit different to most beginners today and my advice to my friends remains to learn to ride with lessons before you buy a board, or gadgets like the one we're talking about here. That's the best way to do it; other ways may work but will take longer or cost you more.
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CatLikeFelix
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France
  #17  Re: Binding Rotation Devices are the dumbest thing ever  Posted 25/01/2012 @ 17:26
In reply to post #16 ...

QUOTE (philw - 25/01/2012 @ 16:47)

Please don't selectively quote me - if you're going to take words out of context then you may as well just make a quote up yourself and then argue with that.

I never had a lesson or rented a board myself, but my situation is a bit different to most beginners today and my advice to my friends remains to learn to ride with lessons before you buy a board, or gadgets like the one we're talking about here. That's the best way to do it; other ways may work but will take longer or cost you more.

Fair enough - but you did say that beginner boarders 'needed' rentals and lessons and that's clearly not the case as you (and me and plenty of other people) are proof of. I agree it's 'probably' the best way to go for most people but certainly not everyone.

Anyway - point taken. And fully agree with useless gadgets not being a good starting point for a beginner. Good pair of boots and a half decent board all day long

Btw - to the OP - what board did you get?
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wildebeest
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Isle of Tiree
  #18  Re: Hey I'm New - Help where to buy Binding Rotation Device..  Posted 25/01/2012 @ 17:28
I agree. I bought my first board after 2 years of rentals. Avoid the gadgets and get lessons.

Incidentally, are they great riders in your opinion. Kingdom of the blind and all that.
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mojo_tony
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Essex
  #19  Re: Hey I'm New - Help where to buy Binding Rotation Device..  Posted 25/01/2012 @ 17:36
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Got a Bataleon Whatever 156. Wasn't sure what to get.

So has anyone actually tried this swivel thing? What would be the main problem with it? Won't it just prevent me from twisting my knee when 'skating' along?
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CatLikeFelix
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France
  #20  Re: Hey I'm New - Help where to buy Binding Rotation Device..  Posted 25/01/2012 @ 17:57
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Looks like a nice all-mountain board.

Tbh - I'm not even sure what that gizmo is meant to do

Just a tool-less way to adjust your binding angle? Don't see the point. Like others have said, my advice would be to stay away.

Boot > Binding > Board. Simples
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mojo_tony
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Essex
  #21  Re: Hey I'm New - Help where to buy Binding Rotation Device..  Posted 25/01/2012 @ 18:00
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Yeh, adjust the binding angle on my lead foot so my foot can be straight on the board when i'm skating along.. trying to skate sideways twists my f*cked up knee even more..

From Wikipedia;
Four to eight percent of snowboarding injuries take place while the person is waiting in ski-lift lines or entering and exiting ski lifts. Snowboarders push themselves forward with a free foot while in the ski-lift line, leaving the other foot (usually that of the lead leg) locked on the board at a 9-27 degree angle, placing a large torque force on this leg and predisposing the person to knee injury if a fall occurs.[23>[24> Snowboard binding rotating devices are designed to minimize the torque force, Quick Stance[25> being the first developed in 1995.[26> They allow snowboarders to turn the locked foot straight into the direction of the tip of the snowboard without removing the boot from the boot binding.
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mojo_tony
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Essex
  #22  Re: Hey I'm New - Help where to buy Binding Rotation Device..  Posted 25/01/2012 @ 18:04
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Maybe I read wikipedia too much

But with 3 operations on my knee and screws inside it, I wanna be careful!
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wildebeest
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Isle of Tiree
  #24  Re: Hey I'm New - Help where to buy Binding Rotation Device..  Posted 25/01/2012 @ 18:50
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It would also raise your height on the board too.

Keep it simple.
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CatLikeFelix
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  #25  Re: Hey I'm New - Help where to buy Binding Rotation Device..  Posted 25/01/2012 @ 19:03
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I agree with wildebeest. The blurb on that link seems to say this is a good thing! Something about less toe and heel drag?

You would probably have less control that's for sure. Your foot, boot, binding and board need to be working as one - everything done up nice and tight

Like the man says - keep it simple.
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baggzy
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London
  #26  Re: Hey I'm New - Help where to buy Binding Rotation Device..  Posted 25/01/2012 @ 23:24
Ordinarily I'd agree that you're better without them, but with your knee damage it might be worth considering. But to answer your original question... it doesn't look like Quickstance (or the Twisted Bindings mentioned in the wikipedia article and discussed in this other thread or the swivler or BoardHubz both discussed by Angry Snowboarder) are available in the UK yet. You might have to live without 'em on this trip. Unless you're going to Mammoth...
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mojo_tony
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Essex
  #27  Re: Hey I'm New - Help where to buy Binding Rotation Device..  Posted 26/01/2012 @ 00:29
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Anyway, I'm off to Solden next Wednesday for 5 days for first ever ski holiday.

What's the best club/bar to go to around there? Someone told me there's 5 guys to every girl... not happy about that if it's true!
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