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 #1 help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 23/09/2009 @ 11:48 |
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I have been asking about new boards on the site for a couple of days, i want good all round freestyle board and i still want to ride the mountain.
I'm starting to get tech overload, what does rocker, MTX,TRS,BTX, reverse camber all really mean? what effect will it give me in my riding?
I'm petite so find very flex boards better as im not very strong when riding.
What of the above tech's should i look for on a board? and whats not worth the hype? i want something to last me a good few seasons and to progress on.
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| #2 Re: help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 23/09/2009 @ 11:58 |
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The first three are all just Lib Tec technologies so you will only find them on that make. As with all new technlogies i wouldnt suggest buying a board without tryng it, they all feel differet and you might not get on with them. Reverse camber is when the board curves upwards rather than downward at the ends like a normal board does, Its the current flavour of the month but again you really need to try it to see if you like the way it feels. I think its safer unless you have time to test out a veriaty of board, to play safe and go for a standard board. Boards have been made a certain way for years and its worked fine, the new technologies can really help in some circumstances but unless you know what you're going for a standard board is a safer bet. Plus, and this all depends on how experienced you are which i dont know, but i think when learning its better to learn on a standard board so you learn the 'correct way' If you start riding a board with certain tech it can be hard to then go back to a standard board afterwards, you will get so used to the way it feels and it will limit your ability to the way that technology rides. |
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| #3 Re: help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 23/09/2009 @ 12:19 |
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thanks, i have about 8 weeks experience and have been riding a bataleon from last year..Its just not great at speed and nearly stops on box rails...i wanted something i could ride the piste but is more freestyle.
I want to demo them but that is going to be hard, as i live ages away from snow domes and cant make the demo days. ARRRRR.
Are lib tech technology really worth the hype? i was thinking of a skate banana this years the 2010 for women, some have great reviews others say they are not sure?
i just want something fun for the whole mountain. |
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| #4 Re: help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 23/09/2009 @ 12:42 |
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Its a matter of preference some love reverse camber boards some hate them. One thing though is that they are really either ment for freestyle or for powder, theyre not really designed for fast charging piste riding. Your profile says youve got an evil twin, that is the exact kinda board you describe that you;re after,...although it is a guys board....... |
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| #5 Re: help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 23/09/2009 @ 13:23 |
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i have the womens version of the evil twin...and yes its a very good board and i do really like it. Its a great piste board, i just wanted something more fun for the park and mucking about on the mountain, as i said before the bataleon seems to want to stop on rails. |
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| #6 Re: help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 23/09/2009 @ 13:47 |
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the violenza? to be honest, thats a pretty good board  i've never heard of anyone saying that they slow up on features.
i'd suggest hitting it quicker  |
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| #7 Re: help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 23/09/2009 @ 13:56 |
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I have actaully, my friend Alex had it and she said it was the slowest board she'd ever ridden. |
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| #8 Re: help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 23/09/2009 @ 14:22 |
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MTX - Magne-traction, basically a serrated edge to provide more grip on hard surfaces. Can wash you out or lock you into a carve.
BTX - Banana with Magne-traction. A MTX board with reverse camber.
TRS - Total Ripper Series. A Lib board.
Rocker - Flat under foot with negative camber on the tip and tail. Area and amount of negative camber change usage.
Reverse Camber - Negative camber with even profile through-out, like a banana. |
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| #9 Re: help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 13/10/2009 @ 20:29 |
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Reverse camber (rocker boards) floats better in powder and is more difficult to catch an edge, but regular camber gives you more stability at speed. It is really just a personal preference for most people.
Take a look at the Ride Compact, K2 Fling and Salomon Lily.
The Compact is rocker, and it has Ride's slimewall sidewalls which make landing jumps so so fun. I'm really thinking of getting this board. Good flex too.
Fling has been built as a freestyle board (twin shaped etc), but it goes like a mother as well. I would say this would help you progress the best out of all of them if you want to be riding all mountain.
The Lily is wicked looking this year, I actually am in love with the graphics. It's got rubber rails in the sidewalls, which land jumps nicely and give you less chatter. For the price, it's an amazing spec.
Hope that helps, and helps deal with overload!!  |
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| #10 Re: help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 03/09/2010 @ 02:02 |
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man the new skate banana is prob the best board for new snowboarders!!! it has so much forgiveness its crazy. you should ride one it will change the way you look at snowboarding. catching an edge is now almost unhurd of haha. |
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| #11 Re: help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 03/09/2010 @ 12:39 |
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Traditional boards curve downwards at the front and the back of the board, so if you lie them flat on the ground they rest on the four "corners" and the middle of the board doesn't quite touch the floor. You get loads of responsiveness but it's easier to catch an edge and doesn't float as easily on powder.
Reverse camber or rocker boards do the opposite and curve upwards at the ends, so they float better on powder and it's harder to catch an edge. The Lib Tech boards curve between the bindings, but not at the ends, so the whole board will rock back and forth when you put it on the ground, but when you stand on them they go "flat", thus producing a response that's supposed to match whatever conditions you're facing - flat and responsive on hard surface, foaty on powder. Opinions differ on whether it always works, but the vast majority of owners seem to love 'em. I bought a banana last year but wasn't able to try it out yet. Other reverse camber boards have upward curvature at the ends but less/none between the feet, so they're always curved and ride differently again.
Bataleon is different - their Triple Base technology curves upwards across the board (width wise) rather than from front to back. So none of the edges touch the ground if you rest it on the floor - it'll pivot in all directions around the middle of the board. Effectively the edges all way round the board are curved upwards, thus making it much harder to catch an edge, and giving you extra lift in powder. These boards will feel different again. I've got a Riot but only got the chance to try it once and found it pretty weird.
I'll be trying them this season if all goes to plan, so will let everyone know how it goes when I do. In the meantime there are older threads on here with more info, so do a search and see what you find. Grill has tried most of these techs out and given quite detailed info, if I recall... |
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| #12 Re: help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 04/09/2010 @ 20:58 |
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QUOTE (saraj42 - 23/09/2009 @ 12:19) thanks, i have about 8 weeks experience and have been riding a bataleon from last year..Its just not great at speed and nearly stops on box rails...i wanted something i could ride the piste but is more freestyle. I want to demo them but that is going to be hard, as i live ages away from snow domes and cant make the demo days. ARRRRR.
Have you tried servicing your board? Probably bare dry and needing the edges tuned, if you can't do it yourself any decent shop should be able to...or a local if you ask nicely enough.
A lot of the shops at the domes will let you demo boards and bindings on any day free of charge, just go in and ask. |
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| #13 Re: help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 05/09/2010 @ 00:03 |
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Haha, there are way too many marketing ploys nowadays... skate banana!
The Skate Banana is a lot of fun, its 10 times easier to ride a box or rail with it, its not one of those boards you can ride all the time though. Fair play to them though, they made a fortune on them!
I have demo's most of Burton's 2010/11 boards, it was interesting... the Flying V boards were weird, but without a doubt a their camber boards are amazing.
Yeh Lib Tech... hmmmm... everyone has their own preferences.
Im going for the new Burton Custom V and the Burton Whammy camber this season I think. |
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| #14 Re: help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 16/01/2011 @ 13:33 |
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Burton Feelgood, ace for everything. |
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do epic sh*t |
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| #15 Re: help tech overload..what does it all mean? Posted 16/01/2011 @ 17:53 |
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QUOTE (baggzy - 03/09/2010 @ 12:39) So none of the edges touch the ground if you rest it on the floor - it'll pivot in all directions around the middle of the board. Effectively the edges all way round the board are curved upwards, thus making it much harder to catch an edge, and giving you extra lift in powder. These boards will feel different again. I've got a Riot but only got the chance to try it once and found it pretty weird.
Take your Riot out, put it on the floor, and stand on it. You'll see that the edges between your feet are in full contact with the floor (otherwise you'd be flat on your face before you got anywhere)
The feel of TBT is a bit more like surfing... not everyone's cup of tea but I think they're ace, they handle like they're on rails. |
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