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 #64 Re: Carving Posted 12/04/2010 @ 19:50 |
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QUOTE (meth mouth - 12/04/2010 @ 17:22) lol Not quite there yet. It has been an interesting read but I'm none the wiser. There is something I haven't been able to put my finger on nor has anyone really addressed it. I've tried so many different ways to hold that damn edge and it always washes out. I've looked at my edge angle, weight, ankle/ knee flex my ass, you name it. I thought it was the speed but thinking back my toe edge carve was also fast. I let the sidecut take the carve and I tried turning when I'm at the peak of the carve when it slows up the fall-line and various points just before while maintaining the speed. Still washes out  I know I'm just learning to carve and understand most points that have come up but still I feel I'm missing something. Maybe it's just more practice...
I still think it may be due to over dependence on your high backs combined with a lack of flex, but only watching you or video analysis will help determine it. |
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| #65 Re: Carving Posted 12/04/2010 @ 23:19 |
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Hey meth mouth,
Could be a few different things. Try using your highbacks more, so more angulation can be gained, and more edge pressure will ensue. Your knees must be bent for this though an I mean bent 90° min. This can be a double edged sword though, as serious angulation will cause heeldrag from the highback heelcups.Try and get some vid or pics online cause I think your problem might be counter-rotation. What board are you using/ are the edges sharp/ is it reverse camber(take it back)/what binding angles you using? There has been some interesting points made, and some unreliable ones. The simple fact of carving is:- sidecut+ correct body position= carve. It does not matter about slope steepness etc. You could try the darkside and pull some G's in a pair of hardboot's but please remember to step out of the closet.  Picture is 'grumpy old man in hard boots' crap conditions for hardboots and race board (slush and shallow slope) but if you can adapt your technique/ body positioning you can carve in any conditions. |
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| #66 Re: Carving Posted 13/04/2010 @ 10:35 |
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I suggest a private advanced lesson, advising them that you want to learn to carve, or maybe a performance day with Ash at Snowboardcoach. |
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| #67 Re: Carving Posted 13/04/2010 @ 11:43 |
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QUOTE (cantridepete - 09/04/2010 @ 17:39) haha up until i've not bothered openeing this thread, mainly cos its entitled "carving"....glad i did though, its made a good read  for what its worth,i've umed and arred and decided i'm in bobs camp, the only time i've ever lost an edge due to foot over hang was in a pipe and on a very steep slope, i dont think on a flat slope i could ever generate enough speed and gforce to stop my body falling to the ground. there's obviously physics behind it of which i'm in no position to understand, but to hold anything near a 90 degree angle on a flat slope would need massive amounts of speed and strength to counter gravity pulling you down  On the other hand you can simply track accross a steep slope with your board already at 70ish degree's. who knows  Park its where its at 
I'll disagree with this... check out the videos of Will Hughes throwing eurocarves on a cat track...
that and trying to follow TRice down a slope in Tignes he had some outragrous carves on flat sections... pretty mich chest to the floor. it's all about moments... |
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| #68 Re: Carving Posted 13/04/2010 @ 11:48 |
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Wills Eurocarves on virtually flat slopes are insane |
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| #69 Re: Carving Posted 13/04/2010 @ 14:05 |
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QUOTE (inactive_16115 - 13/04/2010 @ 11:48) Wills Eurocarves on virtually flat slopes are insane
 that just makes me think about that eurocarve jib vid from a few years back |
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| #70 Re: Carving Posted 13/04/2010 @ 16:07 |
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QUOTE (cantridepete - 09/04/2010 @ 17:39) i dont think on a flat slope i could ever generate enough speed and gforce to stop my body falling to the ground.
The fact that you can't personally ride fast (and therefore pull enough centripetal force) doesn't actually mean that it's impossible. Take a lesson outside the park and you may learn something. |
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| #71 Re: Carving Posted 14/04/2010 @ 10:22 |
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Funny you should mention Will Hughes. I watching his vids on youtube yesterday and also had a chat with him about this while staying at the lodge last month. Went over my head mostly but hey the guy is waaaay to advanced. He carves so effortlessly and seems to be so straight. wtf? I guess after 17 years he can do 'whatever' ! |
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| #72 Re: Carving Posted 14/04/2010 @ 10:44 |
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Will's the best person to speak to about anything techique based, techincally the best snowboarder in the UK in my opinion. |
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| #73 Re: Carving Posted 14/04/2010 @ 14:04 |
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QUOTE (philw - 13/04/2010 @ 16:07) The fact that you can't personally ride fast (and therefore pull enough centripetal force) doesn't actually mean that it's impossible. Take a lesson outside the park and you may learn something.
instruction isnt something i'm short on dude |
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