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  Thread Started By:   cpisthedbb   On:   Thursday 18/02/2010 @ 11:53 Show Newest First    
fatbob
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  #16  Re: Board Servicing...  Posted 19/02/2010 @ 02:06
In reply to post #15 ...
Most side edges are 90 degrees. Some bases can be beveled (edge sort of turned upwards) to be more user friendly so can be 88 or 87 degrees, i.e. 2/3 degree bevel. If you want a more agressive edge angle you can do the side at 88 degrees rather than the 90.
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  #17  Re: Board Servicing...  Posted 19/02/2010 @ 11:31
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In reply to post #14 ...

QUOTE (fatbob - 19/02/2010 @ 02:00)

You can get an edge tool for about £12-£15. Demon do one. These have predefined edge angles of 90 and 88 degrees that are fine for both base and side edges. You then only really need a deburring stone.

I wasn't aware of that.

I emailed an ebay shop who sells the files and said I would need two files - one for the sides and one for the base... I guess he was just trying to make a sale??

Although other listings show a red Dakine edge tool for the sides with 88deg and 90 deg as predefined and then a green Dakine tool with predefined edges of 0deg and 2deg.

There are other listings with adjustable files and other offering a number of pre-defined angles...

The seller I contacted had the following info on his listing:
BEGINNERS or FREESTYLE
Side edge - 89/90 degrees
Base edge - 1.5 degrees

INTERMEDIATE
Side edge - 88/89 degrees
Base edge - 1 degree

ADVANCED or RACING
Side edge - 86/87 degrees
Base edge - 0.5 degrees

More base angle + less side angle = Forgiveness from your edges
More side angle + less base angle = Direct edge control & more support on aggressive carves.

How true that is I don't know...

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  #18  Re: Board Servicing...  Posted 19/02/2010 @ 12:23
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Rough guide on here - http://www.mountainouthouse.com/snowboard_tuning.aspx

Side Edge Tuning
After filing the base, you can file the side edges. Special edge files will make it easier to determine the angle that you are filing in. Pull the edger smoothly towards you the full length of the board until you get a consistent edge cut.When it comes to tuning your edges you have a couple of options:

1. Most boards come from the factory with a 1-2 degree base and 88-90 degree side edge.

2. To decide which is best for you figure out what type of riding you mainly do and use this chart.

All mountian riding 1 degree base/89 degree side
Halfpipe/Icy conditions 1 degree base/88-89 degree side
Rails/Jibs 2 degree base/90 degree side
Alpine/Racing .5 degree base/87-88 degree side

Remember the higher degree base bevel the looser the board will feel looser but the edge hold wont be as great. The higher degree the side edge bevel the sharper the edge and the board will hook up better. If your not sure what you want or what your doing dont forget you can just take it to a shop professional.
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  #19  Re: Board Servicing...  Posted 19/02/2010 @ 12:24
In reply to post #10 ...

QUOTE (Real Pol - 18/02/2010 @ 16:45)

I disagree. I've always found it cheaper in resorts especially if you are just getting a wax. Also they're more experienced than a UK shop that may only do a few dozen boards a season as opposed to one that's doing that sort of volume a day/week.

I got a complete service for my board in Austria a couple of weeks ago, 45 Euros. I'm not sure what they did. I had a big scrape in the base which I'd filled with p-tex a while ago. I asked if a grind would sort it out and as there were a number of scrapes it may sort that out. The guy said that they'd heat the board, take out the scrapes and refill the big scrape with something other than p-tex. As the base is hot or even slightly melted (I could have been understanding him wrong at this point) the new stuff will bind with the base properly. If it wasn't for the crappy p-tex still in the base you woudn't have noticed that there had been a big gouge out it. I'd be interested to know the process that went on here. He also waxed and edged it.

Personally I'd buy a couple of edging tools. It's really easy to do and edging is reasonably pricey, you'll have made your money back in a couple of weeks....or a couple of decades in your world!

P-tex, or whatever other filling material is used, will bind much better to a base that's hot than one that is at room temp - not sure exactly how hot or what equipment they use to do this but I've seen DIYers use small blow torches (like the ones chefs use) to heat the base before applying new p-tex. I used to do DIY p-texing on small holes and some of them worked albeit they looke cr@p, but others, particularly those near the metal edge, just didn't last.

Personally, I leave repairs to the servicing shops, but I do like to do my own waxing and edgin.
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Real Pol
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  #20  Re: Board Servicing...  Posted 20/02/2010 @ 10:29
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Yeah that's the experience I've had with p-tex. The shop did such a good job of my base that, as someone said above, it was like a new board.
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  #21  Re: Board Servicing...  Posted 13/07/2010 @ 12:49
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Try www.jibtuning.co.uk they have a great range of tuining tool and seem to be pretty cheap too. I orded some wax from them and it arrived promptly, no probs. nice
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