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Started the thread, so end of season, so I aught to finish it off.
Got cat tracks sorted. What to do really depends on the conditions. Main thing i found was to push knees tward the each end of the board on really flat bits. Go flat and straight on the board. When its hard ice avoid any tracks or gullies.
A good wax does make a massive difference. On long flats (and uphills) the better the condition of the board the further i go. I got my board base ground and then waxed every 3-4 days. If it got really hard and icey I did it every day (ice rips the base to shreds around the edge).
After nearly 30 days on the hill, i can now rattle past 80% of people 
Still fear falling on the hard tracks, fortunatly never happened this year.
Thanks to everyone 
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| #49 Re: Wide boards on cat tracks 24/02/2008 @ 21:16:56 |
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| By reducing surface area on the snow, you will move quicker.....try letting the board re- camber by pushing your knees to the tip (front knee)and the tail )back knee)of the board. This alsokeeps even weight on both feet, reducing the chance of catching an edge.. |
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| #48 Re: Wide boards on cat tracks 19/02/2008 @ 17:51:28 |
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| You can generate speed by crouching on the back and pushing forward as you stand up again all in one repetitive motion..........do this three or four times when your speed starts to fizzle out. Bit like standing up on the peddles and givin it some on your pusher and then free wheeling for a bit. |
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| #47 Re: Wide boards on cat tracks 18/02/2008 @ 14:36:17 |
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"weight on the nose to the point of lifting the tail up slightly and keeping the board running flat."
I've always leaned back on the tail - thus creating a slight gap under the nose - where the film of water builds up.....helping me beat the flats.....
That and a damn good wax job!!!! |
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| #46 Re: Wide boards on cat tracks 18/02/2008 @ 12:46:17 |
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| Go faster than your mates to start with! |
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| #45 Re: Wide boards on cat tracks 15/02/2008 @ 23:35:17 |
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| Decent wax job on the board, weight on the nose to the point of lifting the tail up slightly and keeping the board running flat. |
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| #44 Re: Wide boards on cat tracks 15/02/2008 @ 20:36:54 |
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| On a cat track last week in Finland I got past the small, slim, perfectly formed instructor (I'm 15 stone) but then fell over so maybe skill has something to do with it |
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| #43 Re: Wide boards on cat tracks 15/02/2008 @ 13:47:42 |
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im lovin this thread as well, good banter, everyone thinks they have got the answer but then gets shot down by the next one along, end of the day no one really knows do they, go on admit it.
so in conclusion
fat lads on big well waxed boards win unless you get beat by a wee person that is
Lovin the hot dog comment - made me laugh out loud, working from home today and the missus wants to know how can writing a method statement be soo funny |
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| #42 Re: Wide boards on cat tracks 15/02/2008 @ 13:26:59 |
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I like this thread
big people seem faster because due to their momentum making them decellerate more slowly than a pencil neck beanpole
the bigguns keep their speed for longer |
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| #41 Re: Wide boards on cat tracks 15/02/2008 @ 13:25:32 |
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| Somebody call the Myth Busters............... |
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| #40 Re: Wide boards on cat tracks 15/02/2008 @ 13:10:41 |
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OK - I think a longer board will help you go faster, but a wider one won't and here's some half-baked technical analysis why.
The higher the ratio of the friction to your weight, the more you slow down. The greater board surface you present, the more your weight is spread, but the more area is in contact. I think the friction is proportional to the amount of pressure multiplied by the area, so on this alone, the size of the board should make no difference.
However, the friction is not consistent across the length of the board. In particular, the motion of the board changes the consistency of the snow (basically it melts a thin layer) which means that the back of the board creates less resistance. Therefore the effect of a long board in reducing the pressure has more impact than it does on increasing the contact area.
Someone will probably tell me this is complete b*ll*cks. |
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| #39 Re: Wide boards on cat tracks 15/02/2008 @ 12:52:23 |
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| Lol, Hot Dog lol. |
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| #38 Re: Wide boards on cat tracks 15/02/2008 @ 12:51:58 |
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nickmotture - she may just be a better rider 
Skill level probably plays the biggest part in all of this in the end! |
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| #37 Re: Wide boards on cat tracks 15/02/2008 @ 12:51:55 |
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| #36 Re: Wide boards on cat tracks 15/02/2008 @ 12:50:43 |
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As I said, all other things being equal - the more massive an object the quicker it'll be down a slope.
The problem we have is that there are too many other variables.
Pressure on the board; coefficient of friction; areodynamics of rider etc etc
However - think about the bob sleigh. The 4 man is much quicker than the 2 man. When go-karting down a hill in an 80s stylee as a kid, the fat kid always won. Weight plays a very important part. |
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