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QUOTE (M the S - 09/07/2008 @ 10:27:07) So i guess after a bit of a ramble i am saying a forward facing stance will take you so far but will limit you
i disagree to a certain extent.
it wont limit everyone but i do think it will hinder most riders. There are some people it may just click with and there are some riders who from riding loads, have adapted a more orthodox technique to maybe a more open stance which works for them (I think Phil made this point earlier).
I think the point is that its generally easier to get better quicky with shoulders roughly in line.
Because lets face it, if it didn;t work for the majority of people, then it wouldn';t be taught around the world. |
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| #36 Re: Why is it that.... 09/07/2008 @ 10:41:06 |
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| terje was a genius. My mate is a merely competant rider so if he is going to get as good as he was and then progress from there, his best bet is to ride in an orthodox manner |
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| #35 Re: Why is it that.... 09/07/2008 @ 10:31:17 |
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Yeah, just think, Terje may have won a few things if he'd done some of that unlearning too. |
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| #34 Re: Why is it that.... 09/07/2008 @ 10:27:07 |
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i agree with chip and m@tt (i think) that people tend to face forward through lack of lessons etc, i was a culprit of this until a few years back.
I had originally been taught about 10 years ago, back then no one really rode duck stance and euro carve was the thing so i learnt that way and stuck with it, i though i was a decent rider and didn't bother with further lessons and reached a plateau. icy blacks wold scare the life out of me and generally put me on my a*se
had some lessons about three years ago which opened my eyes, changed my stance to duck and rode a centred set up. I now happily ride switch, ride most / all terrain and will land most 180's and 360's (only my lack of bottle stops me going further)
So i guess after a bit of a ramble i am saying a forward facing stance will take you so far but will limit you |
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| #33 Re: Why is it that.... 09/07/2008 @ 10:11:17 |
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he didn;t mean to, it was just a bad habit which got worse.
he is now having to unlearn it all now |
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| #32 Re: Why is it that.... 09/07/2008 @ 00:25:51 |
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| #31 Re: Why is it that.... 08/07/2008 @ 13:37:30 |
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| my mate gradually got more and more front on and it really hurt his riding |
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| #30 Re: Why is it that.... 07/07/2008 @ 22:25:31 |
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what Pete said  |
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| #29 Re: Why is it that.... 07/07/2008 @ 21:42:57 |
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Phil, I think the comments on buggering your knees with duck stance was when most people rode forward facing, as it puts undue pressure on your inner thigh and medial ligaments. My comment was regarding snowboarding forward facing with duck or flat angles. Set up with forward angles front and back the knees can flex ok.
Most people when they stand with their legs shoulder width apart have a duck stance, so now that most schools teach you to have your shoulders in line with the board that has been the natural progression in stance as it allows you to flex your knes freely. Try it with a forward stance whilst keeping your body in line with the board and you can't. So the moral is to set up correctly.
Euro carvers - foward angles
New school - duck
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| #28 Re: Why is it that.... 07/07/2008 @ 21:05:30 |
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QUOTE (Dennis - 07/07/2008 @ 13:24:43) As many of you know I ride not unlike that girl. Bit more rotated forward though (+25, +45). It's never stunted my progress, but then I'm not into doing tricks. Guys - it's different horses for different courses, not sure telling people not to ride like that is good advice.
I ride with some french guys who've been boarding since the year dot and they're pretty much very forward rotated. There's no way they've hit a "progression" wall because of this (but yes they don't do tricks). They have also never commented that my technique was "wrong" (+18, -6)
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| #27 Re: Why is it that.... 07/07/2008 @ 19:03:21 |
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| As you said if you're not riding with the correct technique you'll hit a plateau which will hold you back in the long run. It depends how much you care about progressing I suppose. It's all about enjoyment at the end of the day |
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| #26 Re: Why is it that.... 07/07/2008 @ 18:57:02 |
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I let my technique slip until I was riding very similarly, and from watching a lot of people riding I think most recreational boarders who don't tweak technique with a regular lesson end up riding like that..
Take your riding to a higher level and I think you'd find, as I did, that riding that way really doesn't help when things get demanding..
It took me a long time to break the bad habits that I'd picked up so I'd stick with the way you're doing it now unless it REALLY REALLY isn't working for you.. |
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| #25 Re: Why is it that.... 07/07/2008 @ 18:03:38 |
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| #24 Re: Why is it that.... 07/07/2008 @ 18:00:05 |
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| #23 Re: Why is it that.... 07/07/2008 @ 17:57:59 |
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QUOTE (JibMonkey - 07/07/2008 @ 16:55:31) only reason id say dont ride like this and its quite simple boards are unless alpine are not designed to be ridden like that. theres points in the board that with a regular angles setup that when you push yourself and inturn the board will increase performance.
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