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  Thread Started By:   ScattyNatty   On:   Monday 24/11/2008 @ 19:55:02 Show Newest First    
cossie
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West Midlands
  #16  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 31/08/2009 @ 17:29
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True the HD option will definitely be better quality- until you drop it in the snow.

The helemt cam has at least got various other methods of mounting - ie on your arm, just below your knee, on your ankle, on your snowboard. I'd rather sacrifice a little quality than lose the camera.
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ronin007
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Lincolnshire
  #17  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 31/08/2009 @ 22:41
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In reply to post #16 ...
Helmet, Goggles. I use mine for Snowboarding and Mountainbiking

Stick it there and you look at someone you can record them! simple. and the quality is pretty good, with the new exposure control settings, which they provided in the recent firmware upgrade.

Its waterproof, shockproof, -40 degrees, need i say more.

Yeah you get a better picture with a pure HD Camcorder (but you also get lots of negatives, it will get damaged, it's big, it's not waterproof, it cant cope well with cold conditions). HD helmet cams are good but the POV.1 is better at the moment and has been purposely designed for activities like snowboarding. Plus you can upgrade it, firmware and addons, which is a major bonus

Check out the VIO website, see the footage, see the applications if you like it and can afford it buy it.

I've used mine for 2 years and its great for supplementary footage of our group, chasecams etc.

We complile footage from this, a video camera (good high quality static photos) and still photos into a DVD, job done.

My friend used to board with his camcorder on a pole, you get good shots, but if you fall, if you get moisture in it, your *******! Plus it's not fire and forget like a headcam with wireless controls, press button on sleeve/record, forget it...job done. Suffice it to say, we don't use the camcorder for chase footage only static shots e.g. terrain park or panoramic shots.
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flip_lmb
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Cheshire
  #18  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 01/09/2009 @ 09:20
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The VHoldR CountourHD looks pretty damn good (and a damn sight cheaper than the Vio Pov 1 I was gonna buy).

http://www.vholdr.com/contourhd

Looking at a few of the videos, the only down side seems to be that the contrast is a bit high when filming snow.

Also, take a look at the Tachyon XC

http://www.tachyoninc.com/
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treeman
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Lancashire
  #19  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 01/09/2009 @ 10:00
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yeh, the contrast is a bit bad, however, you can change this when you are editing your video. Im very tempted by that, but, gopro have a hd one coming out in october called hdhero that looks good
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flip_lmb
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Cheshire
  #20  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 01/09/2009 @ 12:19
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QUOTE (treeman - 01/09/2009 @ 10:00:47)

yeh, the contrast is a bit bad, however, you can change this when you are editing your video. Im very tempted by that, but, gopro have a hd one coming out in october called hdhero that looks good

Looked at the gopro a few times, but would just feel an utter wally (well... even more so ) with that thing strapped to my head!

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treeman
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Lancashire
  #21  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 01/09/2009 @ 13:26
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True, but I dont think I would strap it to my head like that, probably use the chest harness mount, or strap it round my leg or sumthin. Im torn between contour hd and that new gopro hdhero
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Shi-Devil
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Lincolnshire
  #22  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 01/09/2009 @ 14:04
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God it looks horrendous! Strap on chest? Your images will look great with your arms, jacket covering it up, when you board, you will have a lovely shot of the side of the slope, on your arm all over the place.

Best place is helmet, mmmm, i hope it's shock proof, because it's going to get a hell of a lot of knocks as it protrudes out, plus I hope it's good at exposure to water/cold as well.
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flip_lmb
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Cheshire
  #23  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 01/09/2009 @ 14:11
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I want a cam for boarding and riding my dirt bike (enduro's, not MX ) and I reckon the GoPro would really buffet your head around from wind blast (curry joke required here :D)
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treeman
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Lancashire
  #24  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 01/09/2009 @ 14:11
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hmm fair point, in terms of not lookin like a complete wierdo, i think the contour hd looks ok just strapped to your goggles. Im suprised gopro havent come up with a solution to this problem yet to be honest. Although, ive seen one video where he literally mounts it to the front of his snowboard, which gave quite a nice shot
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cossie
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West Midlands
  #25  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 01/09/2009 @ 14:18
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Yeah my Action Cam mounts on my board and for the time it stayed on there it gave me some pretty good shots. It also gave me a good idea of how hard I was carving too as the horizon changes angle like on my motorbike.
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Shi-Devil
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Lincolnshire
  #26  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 01/09/2009 @ 14:22
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Do you not get much chatter or snow in the lense?
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halo1234
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  #27  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 01/09/2009 @ 14:26
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Not sure how well a goggle strap will work. Id' be interested to hear how well the brackets for the helmet & goggle perform on the contour HD
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cossie
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West Midlands
  #28  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 01/09/2009 @ 14:32
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In reply to post #26 ...
Good point, it partly depends on your terrain. For the chatter, if you set it too far over the nose then it does vibrate a little. Further back it was fine.

Ps. No Snow on the lense as the mount has an angular rotating swivelling thingy.

heres a pic:-

Click to view full image.jpg>
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Shi-Devil
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Lincolnshire
  #29  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 01/09/2009 @ 14:33
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I will try it out on my POV.1 thanks
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R1ch
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London
  #30  Re: Which Helmet Camera  Posted 14/10/2009 @ 13:06
The other problem with using HD camcorders for helmet cam stuff is that they all tend to use CMOS chips, which use a 'Rolling Shutter'.

I've seen it myself when I use my Canon HD camcorder and try and do some really fast pans or while moving the camera around. On a camera with a small lense, being used as a helmet camera to capture fast moving images, while the camera is also moving, it's going to come out fairly choppy. So an SD image in most cases is going to be better, it's just then getting one which that has a decent resolution, as most aren't full PAL or NTSC, that's where you start paying more for them.

I bought the O'Neill Campack last season, as it's resolution is not too bad for the price.
I actually never got to use it on the snow though, due to ending up in hospital!

I've been meaning to do a little test and review of it using it on my bike or something.
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