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| sorry fatbob my reply was meant to go on the post before yours as they talk about putting pressure under their front foot |
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| #18 Re: Mcnab pressure control system 20/03/2008 @ 11:09:51 |
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Paul - where did I say to put pressure under your foot? You use the balls of your feet to apply pressure to the toe edge and the heel to apply pressure to the heel edge.
I do think some of the McNab techniques can be a bit complicated and threads like this prove it. There's not substitute for a lesson. Anyway less talking, more action. |
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| #17 Re: Mcnab pressure control system 20/03/2008 @ 09:14:15 |
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Having read through some of this, it sounds very complicated for what is really a simple thing.
Seriously, I think it's not really a good idea to try to memorize things like trying to twist your board with your feet. It all sounds arbitrary and weird. All you need to do is to stick the board on edge so it's in reverse camber, then it'll turn all on its own. You don't twist it or torque it or crank it around.
There are any number of ways to get the thing from one edge to the other, but I think you need a simple and clear view of what you're trying to achieve before you worry too much about different ways of achieving it.
Picking the last message because that's the one I can see..
Putting pressure under your foot is the wrong place.the pressure should be at the contact points on your sidecut ie. the widest parts of your board this is why you push on the outside of your feet to force the pressure up the board
If you mean that you should have your weight pretty evenly distributed ("centered") between your feet, then more or less that's correct. If you're talking about where your C of G should be in relation to the board laterally, well that's way more advanced than this discussion, but you need to hold the board on edge at an angle which the G can support, that's all. A bit like banking a bike around a turn, it comes naturally. |
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| #16 Re: Mcnab pressure control system 19/03/2008 @ 23:36:23 |
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| Putting pressure under your foot is the wrong place.the pressure should be at the contact points on your sidecut ie. the widest parts of your board this is why you push on the outside of your feet to force the pressure up the board |
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| #15 Re: Mcnab pressure control system 06/03/2008 @ 10:45:59 |
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| The opposing pressure needs to be on your rear foot so that you are twising the board. As the board comes round, the back foot will then mirror the front foot so as to create a smooth arc. |
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| #14 Re: Mcnab pressure control system 05/03/2008 @ 15:17:53 |
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Hi All,
Sorry to jump in on this thread but I also have the book / dvd but I also read a conflicting (I thik) article on the web about one of mcnabs courses so I am also confused:-
So I understand that steering by turning your shoulders or by using your back foot is wrong etc and I understand about using my front foot to steer the board but I am confused as to where the "Opposing presure" should be.
For instance if I am regular and am traversing the slope on my heel side and I want to initiate a turn onto my toe side I put pressure on the control edge under my front foot toe. Where is the opposing pressure supposed to be applied at this point? Is it diagonally opposite ie under my rear foot at the heel side? ie twisting the board with my feet?
Or is at the other end of my board on the same side ie my rear foot at the toe edge as well? |
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| #13 Re: Mcnab pressure control system 21/02/2008 @ 19:12:44 |
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| When your coming out of a turn on to your heels dont,t think of loading up pressure on the back foot by pushing on the foot to make the heel side edge grip. Think of making the heel side edge grip by curling/pulling up your toes on the back foot so its mirroring/following what your front foot is doing this is what properly engages the edge and gets you carving |
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| #12 Re: Mcnab pressure control system 21/02/2008 @ 13:11:32 |
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Just want to mention that not loading your back foot correctly will also cause you to skid.
I had trouble when carving on my heel edge. The only way I can really cut the edge on steep hardpack in is to pretend im grabbing stalefish. i.e pressuring the back edge (heel) really hard when coming out of the turn. It was then pointed out to me that I was knock kneed... that is I allowed my knee to fall forward (like a skateboarders knee) and not pressuring the outside of my back foot. It was a revelation when i discovered I could carve cleanly on hard pack with no skid or drift just by moving my back knee over the back foot correctly and hence pressuring better.
I think this is also why learning switch is so important (something I neglect). This reverses everything and pushes your stance and pressure points correct. Also teaches your weaker foot to steer.
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| #11 Re: Mcnab pressure control system 21/02/2008 @ 10:42:53 |
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Hey painey
I hade teh same back foot/hip rotation bad habit, especialy on steeper pitches - the mcnab system has definately helped me ride smoother - as long as I relax and let the board flow from turn to turn by using the edges - stil find myself falling back into bad habits when tired on a really steep/icy patch but then i just go back to basics and try to focus on each turn using my foot pressure - keep at it and it will come!  |
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| #10 Re: Mcnab pressure control system 20/02/2008 @ 23:49:37 |
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That makes perfect sense to me! Really appreciate your comments so thanks very much.
I plan on practicing this as much as possible in the 3 valleys next week so hopefully I'll have improved considerably before the week's out. As mentioned I use my back foot rather to much for my liking but I generally ride with experienced skiers who like to go very fast. I do a very good job of keeping up with them but I'm using my back foot to turn as well as control speed, need to sort this out.
Thanks once again - Chris |
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| #9 Re: Mcnab pressure control system 19/02/2008 @ 17:01:41 |
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Hey Painey,
I'll give it my best go. What you said in regards to making your heel to toe edge turn is correct, you are trying to apply the pressure through the outside of your front foot toward the end of the toe edge (or point B) to start this turn.
Now the difference is that you can apply some pressure there (to point B) by using just your front foot but if you use the back foot to push of off or from, then you can apply much more pressure.
When we're teaching this technique we get people to try this little excerise to make a comparison.
Stand with your feet in your stance position without your board on and push through the outside of just your front foot, then push to the same point but this time pushing off the outside of the back foot to increase the pressure through to the front foot (opposing pressure).
By doing it this way you can really control the amount of pressure you input through to the front foot which will determine how much the nose bends at the start of the turn. The more pressure you put in the more the nose bends, so the sharper the board comes round.
With regards to your comment on using your back foot too much, you need to use the back foot a lot but its more important to focus on how you are using it. When the back foot joins the front foot on the new edge dont push on the back foot as this results in overloading it and making it skid.
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| #8 Re: Mcnab pressure control system 18/02/2008 @ 22:35:35 |
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I'm sure I'm missing something here as I've got the book/DVD but I can't get my head round this opposing pressure business so I'd appreciate it being explained a little better.
I'm regular stance, so if in a heel to toe egde turn and I'm applying pressure to the outside of my lead foot, towards the front as I turn, then where should I be adding opposing pressure and why?
I should add that I'm not a total beginner on my board and I'm progressing into carved turns but being self taught I'm probably doing it all wrong. I'm aware that I do use my back leg way too much and possibly a bit too much rotation, hence my interest in sorting out my technique. Any help much appreciated, especially if it makes sense!!
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| #7 Re: Mcnab pressure control system 15/02/2008 @ 15:46:07 |
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I found it really helpfull but also agree with what your saying a little.
There were bits in the book I was reading thinking huh?!?
But then when I watched the DVD part to go with it, it made sense and I already did it anyway without thinking about it.
It's still helped me though, understanding the theory behind it and doing the drills from the going further section to improve my technique. |
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| #6 Re: Mcnab pressure control system 15/02/2008 @ 14:56:27 |
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| #5 Re: Mcnab pressure control system 02/02/2008 @ 20:38:14 |
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