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 #67 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 01/09/2008 @ 12:34:40 |
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QUOTE (peter_file - 31/08/2008 @ 15:01:06)  this is simply not true!! seriously, its geat that lib tech are trying some new ideas, and i'd be very interested in trying out these boards to see how they ride. but coming out with this pseudo technical rubbish just shows that you have little understanding of the science of ski and snowboard construction/performance. and that does a lot to put people like me off who have been involved in skiing/boarding long enough to know what they are talking about and do not appreciate being sold gimmicks! i am sceptical about reverse camber, but hopefully will have an opportunity to try it sometime (do you have any demos lined up at MK?) as i am about due a new board. until then, i will try to keep an open mind. you would make that a lot easier if you stopped with the pseudo science propganda.
I know that Boardwise in Cannock have a 156 2009 banana in for demo that they will let you take to the snowdome! |
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| #66 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 01/09/2008 @ 12:34:23 |
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Really? When I read that (on the Lib-Tech website) I assumed it was true 'cos it makes sense. (Not the speed bit, but the fact that ski's need to be cambered downwards so their edges dig in...) Is that not so?  |
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| #65 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 31/08/2008 @ 21:31:22 |
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QUOTE (peter_file - 31/08/2008 @ 15:01:06) this is simply not true!! seriously, its geat that lib tech are trying some new ideas, and i'd be very interested in trying out these boards to see how they ride. but coming out with this pseudo technical rubbish just shows that you have little understanding of the science of ski and snowboard construction/performance. and that does a lot to put people like me off who have been involved in skiing/boarding long enough to know what they are talking about and do not appreciate being sold gimmicks! i am sceptical about reverse camber, but hopefully will have an opportunity to try it sometime (do you have any demos lined up at MK?) as i am about due a new board. until then, i will try to keep an open mind. you would make that a lot easier if you stopped with the pseudo science propganda.
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I was wondering if someone would catch this.  |
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| #64 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 31/08/2008 @ 15:01:06 |
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QUOTE (BananaMan - 20/06/2008 @ 18:53:30) The idea of the ‘Camber’ comes from the ski industry to allow the skier to travel faster on hard pack. When increasing the distance between the nose and tail of the ski the implication of a camber reduces the friction over the surface directly under the skier’s foot, therefore allowing an increase in speed.
this is simply not true!!
seriously, its geat that lib tech are trying some new ideas, and i'd be very interested in trying out these boards to see how they ride.
but coming out with this pseudo technical rubbish just shows that you have little understanding of the science of ski and snowboard construction/performance. and that does a lot to put people like me off who have been involved in skiing/boarding long enough to know what they are talking about and do not appreciate being sold gimmicks!
i am sceptical about reverse camber, but hopefully will have an opportunity to try it sometime (do you have any demos lined up at MK?) as i am about due a new board. until then, i will try to keep an open mind. you would make that a lot easier if you stopped with the pseudo science propganda. |
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| #63 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 26/08/2008 @ 18:15:10 |
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| Hey Crash, I am a pretty big guy and have ridden the 159 Sk8 B quite a bit. You would get away with the 56 for sure but personally I would recomend the 59. It opens up a few more doors and you can still have as much fun as you want bombing a hill as well!!!! |
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| #62 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 18/08/2008 @ 16:23:08 |
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I want it as my butter, jib mess around board, that I can use in the park and improve my flat land tricks, but I'd also like to be able to hit a groomer and have it hold an enjoyable pace.
I have a Lib T/Rice MTX for blasting the hill and I believe TRS to be a similar board hence looking at the SK8.
I think the 156 is what I need, but with my weight will it be to soft? |
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| #61 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 18/08/2008 @ 16:15:36 |
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It depends what you are planning on using it for!
maybe you would be better on one of thier stiffer boards around a 157 if it was for all mountain use? |
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| #60 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 18/08/2008 @ 16:09:13 |
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Cheers Guys
I'm 6'0 and 14 1/2 stone.
I currently has a 161.5 for resort/off piste and a 156 for park, however my 156 has a long effective edge so it rides more like a 159
So I am currently torn between the two! (156 or 159) - I am thinking that i will go for the 156 Sk8 and use my 156 as a rock, early season board!
The problem I have is I wont get to demo both lengths so I'll be stuck with what i buy!
Anyone got an opinion? |
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| #59 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 18/08/2008 @ 15:33:32 |
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QUOTE (PhilS - 18/08/2008 @ 15:25:59) I'm 5'11" and 85 kg / 13.5 stone / 190 lbs. My last board was a 160 and when trying rails and stuff
I'm 14st and 5'10 and I ride a 155 for park, well all mountain really. I'm thinking about getting a 156 because there isn't a 154. I did try the 152 was good and a lot of fun plus I didn't really feel the size diffence, but then again I didn't have chance of riding fast on it. |
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| #58 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 18/08/2008 @ 15:25:59 |
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I'm 5'11" and 85 kg / 13.5 stone / 190 lbs.
My last board was a 160 and when trying rails and stuff it felt like a bit of an anchor and really hard work to maneuver and spin into place, the shorter board I have now feels much better for this but I will have to wait until winter to see how much stability i've lost on the real slopes! |
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| #57 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 18/08/2008 @ 15:21:24 |
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PhilS
Do you mind me asking what height and weight you are?
I'm currently torn between a 156 & 159 Sk8
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| #56 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 18/08/2008 @ 11:51:48 |
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| I thought the TRS was supposed to be stiffer, but the new lib tech site gives them both 6/10 for stiffness (156 banana and 157 TRS) |
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| #55 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 18/08/2008 @ 10:59:02 |
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Can anybody let me know what the differences are between the Skate Banana and the TRS BTX? I'm looking for the most all round board as I pretty much like riding everything equally (piste, park, pow, etc.).
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| #54 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 18/08/2008 @ 10:19:14 |
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Well I bit the bullet and bought an 09 156 banana last week, rode it for the first time at the weekend and all I can say is WOW!
The first thing I noticed was magnetraction! It worked better than I was expecting and turned parts of the slope you'd normally avoid into ones you just rode as normal. You really could losen up and relax on the hardpack/slightly icy parts. I did back to back runs with a standard edge board and the difference was very noticeable - the standard board made the slope feel a hell of a lot icier... I reckon on usual european piste conditions (hardpack and lacking fresh snow) it could let you ride each slope like it was a grade lower (i.e. ride a red like it was a blue etc).
As for the banana tech, I can't say I noticed a huge difference to a normal board if i'm honest, I didn't catch any edges playing around on it but then I dont usually anyway. On slope 180s landed well and perhaps landing felt a bit more stable than a regular board. It might be the banana (as you are bending it with the camber) or it might just be the board being more flexible but it was much easier to tail press and try and butter than my old board. It also felt like it had a lot more pop and ollied much better than other boards i've ridden giving kickers a more floaty and longer airtime feeling. I think i'll probably notice the banana more when I push the board more and try more stuff on it.
If the Never Summer boards improve on the banana and MTX as much as Grill says then I can't wait to ride one of them! They look like great boards and the only reason I didn't get one was the lack of reviews so far - it may be one for next year when more people have ridden it.
The only downsides of the banana so far is the weight (it feels well heavy for its size - I was expecting it to be a light board) and it feels less stable than my last board in the choppy stuff, but it is shorter and less stiff so that is to be expected. |
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| #53 Re: Lib-tech BANANA Technology (Reverse Camber / Rocker) 31/07/2008 @ 17:58:31 |
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QUOTE (sparko - 31/07/2008 @ 13:38:28) I rode a couple of the smokin boards, really enjoyed the one with the really squared off nose with MTX. Really enjoyed it too. As for detecting the dead spots on the SB, i couldn't tell. Perhaps my level of riding is isn't such that I could tell anyway. Needless to say I had great times on both....
I'm a bit of a pedant when I'm testing boards. 
A lot of the things I find many people would never notice. The Burton EST system is a good example. Because the bindings mount on the outside it moves the dead spot from under the binding to outside of it. Wouldn't be a problem for some people, but I've found that it hits the flex hard and it loses feel when you try to pop hard. Apparently the pros who ride it don't cars, but it drives me nuts. |
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