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| #93 Re: Emigrating to Canada 18/07/2008 @ 17:27:35 |
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| #92 Re: Emigrating to Canada 18/07/2008 @ 10:37:43 |
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| #91 Re: Emigrating to Canada 18/07/2008 @ 09:50:02 |
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Fair enough!..
I wish you all the best and hope it works out.. I also hope to be following you very shortly!.. |
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| #90 Re: Emigrating to Canada 18/07/2008 @ 09:08:56 |
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Chip,
First things first, sorry to hear about your car – bummer 
In regards to your original reply you stated that you would be interested to hear my take on immigration, so that’s what I posted, MY take, based on MY experience, if you choose not to agree, that’s your choice and we could reply to each other comments all day, I don’t disagree with everything you have said, but nor do I agree with all of it, again this is my choice!
Immigration is an issue that lots of people have strong views and varied opinions on, as shown, so it’s probably best we agree to disagree on the topic and draw a line under it!
I’m not interested in having an argument, I AM leaving these sh*tty shores and that fills me with a constant sense of glee!!  |
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| #89 Re: Emigrating to Canada 17/07/2008 @ 23:58:32 |
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How does that saying go? "Plus ça change..." (It's some weird foreign language like French I think!) 
Having lived in Canada, the US and Australia (as well as the UK but not for many years) all I can say is that change the appropriate descriptor from "Poles" or "Hungarians" to "Mexicans" "Jamaicans" "Samoans" etc and you can have the same argument in any of those three countries!
Every generation seems to pick on the most recent immigrants when times gets tough. |
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| #88 Re: Emigrating to Canada 17/07/2008 @ 23:30:57 |
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QUOTE (chip_board - 17/07/2008 @ 23:16:48) Well, I'm probably not in the best frame of mind to reply to this (having just smashed my motor tonight) but: 1) All the Poles I have met have a pretty good understanding of English, some better than natives (appose?) 2) Nobody I know who has had anything to do with Polish builders has a bad word to say about them, actually precisely the opposite - unlike the generally lazy, unskilled, disinterested 'builders' we produce. 3) So it's ok for us to rape developing countries of their wealth (as we do and have done for hundreds of years) but it's not ok for others to take wealth from us?.. I personally see it as a fair rebalancing of world wealth - we've been very lucky and had it pretty good for a very long time... 4) Being able to come and go freely benefits us as much as it benefits others. 5) Migrant workers have helped the UK economy hugely, particularly the people who come and do the menial poorly-paid jobs that the idle, work-shy, uneducated natives think that they are above doing themselves. 6) Councils don't need an excuse like foreigners arriving to waste money on signs - I know a barely used backcountry lane near work that has 'Protected Verge' signs at either end.. concreted into the very verge that is supposed to be protected.. 7) From what I've gathered most Poles that are here would much rather be back at home with friends and family than scrounging off the state here - the exodus had already started to happen, fuelled by an upturn in the Polish economy, before the current building downturn here.. I'm not looking for an argument but I don't think you can have it both ways and that it's unfair to blame foreigners for problems here..
I have to agree with you here Chippy. I used to have 2 poles and 1 Hungarian working for me and they were the hardest working people i'd ever met. They never moaned, just got on with the job in hand. The reason why most Poles come to the UK is to earn a decent wage and send money home to their familes so they can survive and better their lives.
Don't think emmigrating to Canada is an easy process. If and when you get your head around the masses of literature you then have to begin the lengthy process of applying. They don't make it easy for you in any way, shape or form! |
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| #87 Re: Emigrating to Canada 17/07/2008 @ 23:16:48 |
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Well, I'm probably not in the best frame of mind to reply to this (having just smashed my motor tonight) but:
1) All the Poles I have met have a pretty good understanding of English, some better than natives (appose?)
2) Nobody I know who has had anything to do with Polish builders has a bad word to say about them, actually precisely the opposite - unlike the generally lazy, unskilled, disinterested 'builders' we produce.
3) So it's ok for us to rape developing countries of their wealth (as we do and have done for hundreds of years) but it's not ok for others to take wealth from us?.. I personally see it as a fair rebalancing of world wealth - we've been very lucky and had it pretty good for a very long time...
4) Being able to come and go freely benefits us as much as it benefits others.
5) Migrant workers have helped the UK economy hugely, particularly the people who come and do the menial poorly-paid jobs that the idle, work-shy, uneducated natives think that they are above doing themselves.
6) Councils don't need an excuse like foreigners arriving to waste money on signs - I know a barely used backcountry lane near work that has 'Protected Verge' signs at either end.. concreted into the very verge that is supposed to be protected..
7) From what I've gathered most Poles that are here would much rather be back at home with friends and family than scrounging off the state here - the exodus had already started to happen, fuelled by an upturn in the Polish economy, before the current building downturn here..
I'm not looking for an argument but I don't think you can have it both ways and that it's unfair to blame foreigners for problems here.. |
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| #86 Re: Emigrating to Canada 17/07/2008 @ 10:32:52 |
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I may be repeating something already written but I can't be arsed to go through all of the posts.
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Canada is targeting the UK and it's skilled workers on the basis that most people are peeved off with the current economical situation. These skilled workers are then being "fast tracked" into Canada. So if you match what they are looking for (Doctors,nurses,engineers etc) then you should get through pretty quickly.
If not, it takes 3 years to do a degree in nursing (36 months) that's probably a quicker option  |
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Chip,
In my experience getting into Canada is no ‘walk in park’ there is a point system and lots of red tape, you have to prove your worth to the country, this means having an education and being able to speak the language, to get a job you must prove that first there is no Canadian who is willing and able to do it, before you are able to have health care you have to have contributed X amount to the state in taxes! – I could go on!!
The scenario in Britain appears to be that we will welcome all, particularly Polish, who have no qualifications or skills that are desirable to the UK, who can’t speak English and who then are given benefits and housing!!!
When they do find work, taking a job off a native, and remove money from our economy in the way of wages, they then send all of there money back to Poland as appose to spending it in our country, this in turn weakens our economy further!!
I have used the Polish as an example here but there are lots of other nationalities doing the same!!! And due to the UK being run by Europe these people can come and go as they please, raping our economy and leaving us to pick up the pieces!
Tax payers money is being used locally to me to remove every road sign, manufacturer a new sign and then put it back up so as it is written in English & Polish!!!
You cant blame the Poles for wanting a better life, but you can blame the government for not managing the situation!!
Are you a fan of this immigration policy?
Whether you understand this ‘Immigration’ argument is your call, and everyone is entitled to there opinion, but this is mine and how I feel! |
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QUOTE (chip_board - 16/07/2008 @ 21:37:15) They're ok though, they're not 'foreign'..
 I wouldn't go that far!!! Warm beer, strange food - that's pretty foreign! |
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| #83 Re: Emigrating to Canada 16/07/2008 @ 21:37:15 |
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QUOTE (Silver Star - 16/07/2008 @ 19:08:39) You forgot the boatloads (more recently planeloads) of Brits!
They're ok though, they're not 'foreign'.. |
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QUOTE (chip_board - 16/07/2008 @ 18:40:11) "Immigration policy"?!.. Erm, you do know that Canada is a country populated by immigrants and that Asians, Indians, etc arrive by the plane load every day?..
You forgot the boatloads (more recently planeloads) of Brits!
I was one of them, many moons ago.  |
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| #81 Re: Emigrating to Canada 16/07/2008 @ 18:40:11 |
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"Immigration policy"?!..
Erm, you do know that Canada is a country populated by immigrants and that Asians, Indians, etc arrive by the plane load every day?..
I've never understood the 'immigration policy' argument especially when espoused by the sort of people who've thought it fine for Brits to buy up half of the Spanish Costas and turn them into UK-on-Sea before moving on to Eastern Europe in the hope of making easy money and making property unaffordable for locals..
Not implying you're any of the above but interested to know exactly what you meant..
Completely agree with the other reasons though and hopefully will be there shortly myself.. |
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QUOTE (Crash7 - 16/07/2008 @ 15:25:54) ................. all going well I should be looking to re-locate in June 09.
Well, good luck mate. I really hope it works out for you. I would love to be doing the same, but I've left it a bit late and there would be too many complications (kids, school, etc..) I know they ARE overcomeable (?) but I think that a pipe-dream is all it's going to be for me.
The reasons you've stated are certainly at the top of my list for being discontented with the UK.  |
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