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Yay - I've got an interview for the C&G course.  The only bummer is that it's while I'm away on holiday so they have asked to look at some of my work on my website instead and will base it on that. It's a bit cut and dried as I would rather have a natter to them about the course and what I want to get out of it, but hey timing sucks. |
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| #9 Re: City and Guilds B&W Photography 10/02/2008 @ 22:36:43 |
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| Refreshing one of my old posts - still looking at the C&G6922. Has anyone taken either the 002 or 003 streams for this? My local college does the B&W film(002) one but not the digital imaging(003) which I find rather strange. |
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| #8 Re: City and Guilds B&W Photography 09/03/2005 @ 08:51:49 |
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I started doing the C and G course you are talking about a few years back at Bradford Uni. I had taken photos for about 10 years before and really wanted to learn Darkroom Technique. The facilities were excellent and we had a really good knowledeable tutor, who gave excellent advice and I learned loads and produced some great images most of which are on the first few pages here http://groups.msn.com/ChrisClix/shoebox.msnw?Page=1 Trouble is that I had no interest in completing the submissions, ie actually making a file and presenting the modules, which was all a bit tedious, so that I could get a qualification. So I basically just went for a couple of terms and used theire facilites, which suited me fine.
I agree what you say about clubs though. They are worth going to, but don't fall into their rut. Look around, some are better than others. |
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| #7 Re: City and Guilds B&W Photography 21/02/2005 @ 18:15:14 |
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thanks guys for the advice.
I'm looking to use the course as a way back in to developing my own prints, and improve certain aspects of my photography through critiques from those at a similar level & situation.
From what I have found in the past is that those using B&W tend to be fairly ok in knowing their ISO from their fstop.
The C&G level 1 is also a prerequisite for the level 2 course, the company is paying for that, so I see them as 2 for 1. Current rate is £100 for the 30 hours, which isn't bad either. The materials need to be paid for, in terms of paper/film, but solutions are free.
Finally the reason for going for it is that it will give me exposure, pardon the pun, to the circuit, and make the task of finding a community dark room and like minded individuals easier. I haven't got the room at home to build suitable dark room, and wouldn't use sufficient solutions within the time.
I found "photography clubs" too stuffy, and hung up on developing a club style and using tweaks to produce what can sometimes be a "stale" shot. The critiques I have also encountered are slightly biased because the way the photo's you are producing do not match "their club norm", not because the quality, lighting or composition was lacking.
Afro, are you suggesting I get another F80 body?? :p It'll be fine once I get things back on track, the Pentax is great as it's soo lightweight and very easy to use. Just a slight lens compatibility problem.
Film scanner's - I've got a Primefilm 1800u, which does a decent enough basic job for only £79. It was £99 in Jessops, but got reduced just after I bought it!!  |
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| #6 Re: City and Guilds B&W Photography 21/02/2005 @ 09:05:10 |
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I did a degree in photography & by all accounts the C&G gives you more practical tuition.(well all the people who had done C&G were miles ahead) They might teach you a certain way of doing things but a bit of discipline will get you more creative once you finish.
I prefer colour developaming to B&W for two reasons
1) colour is much the same but with a few more variables
2) I was always poisoning myself doing B&W wet process (first signs are a sore throat)
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| #5 Re: City and Guilds B&W Photography 21/02/2005 @ 08:42:41 |
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I looked into this course but decided to do the G&G Photography course which covers both B&W and Colour. I think the B&W course is useful even if you have been taking photos for years as it covers dark room techniques, and gives you the ability to have your photo's critiqued by experienced photographers.
When I looked into the course it was certainly less than £330 - I seem to remember it being about £120. |
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| #4 Re: City and Guilds B&W Photography 20/02/2005 @ 23:35:26 |
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Ah ha! I see you're having the same problem I had! I solved that by picking up a second body for my X-700 - so now I have one loaded with B&W and one with colour. Since they're both the same body I can interchange lenses and that seems to have solved most of my problems.
I'm feeling smug at the moment as I've just put my film through its last wash and it's hanging out to dry right now, and even though it was only a test film, I can see there are some pretty good shots in there.
Now I just need a film scanner...
As for the course I'd say that it's entirely up to you - but I can tell you that I never paid £330 for someone to teach me how to take photos - and after 22 years of shooting I'm not sure that you should either.
What troubles me is that the course states that you don't need any previous experience - so you're going to be lumped in with a bunch of newbies who don't know their aperture from their arsehole?
If it's a genuine qualification that will help you to get work as a photographer then go for it - but if it's a course that's trying to 'teach' you how to take B&W shots, then run a mile.
After 22 years you've got your technique down - you don't need someone to try and teach you style.
At the same time, I learnt to develop through an Ilford leaflet and over the net, so I wouldn't say you needed to be taught how to do that either.
But as I haven't done the course maybe I should just shut it and let you decide! |
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| #3 Re: City and Guilds B&W Photography 19/02/2005 @ 15:14:57 |
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It's a 10 week course, 3 hours per week, so in real "classroom" terms quite short.
The portfolio stuff looks really good, with interesting subjects. There is a more in depth course, level 2 which is module driven, rather than topics in a portfolio. Level 1 is the pre-requisite for that.
F80 is superb! - getting some nice shots out of it, but definitely still learning and writing down everything. I'm getting used mainly to the needle sharp focus, and playing around with bracketing(v easy on this camera) but as far as ease of use and functionality goes, I couldn't ask for more.
It came with a very good 28-80 Nikon D, and at the moment I have got an 18-35 and 70-300 on approval (2nd hand). I'm waiting for those films to come back too, to make sure they are pukka lenses. I'm using the other camera with the B&W at the moment. The timing of changing films was wrong for some shots I wanted to use colour for, and the camera I had with me at the time. Once that roll finishes i'll send some B&W through it and use this one for the course. |
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| #2 Re: City and Guilds B&W Photography 19/02/2005 @ 13:36:31 |
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Hey matey,
My uncle (the man who got me into photography) did this C&G course but we could be talkin as far back as 15 years and i'm sure it has moulded him into the "text book photographer" that he is today 
I think things might have changed from them days though... here's hoping eh.
How long is the course and how much time do you need for it ?
How you getting on with the F80, is it performing well?
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| #1 City and Guilds B&W Photography 18/02/2005 @ 23:39:09 |
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Not specifically snowboard related, so apologies if anyone takes offence.
I am considering undertaking a City and Guilds course in B&W photography, and wondered if anyone else has done this particular course before?
It's the basic certificate in B&W Photography level 1 - 6922-02.
If so, what were your thoughts on it? What level were you before starting this? did you get anything new out of it?
I'm an enthusiastic amateur, havng used a 35mm SLR in colour for the last 22 years (had my first SLR for my 10th birthday!), but have rarely dabbled in B&W. In fact I've recently gone back from digital as I'm not happy with the control I've lost with my camera. |
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