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  Thread Started By:   KidParkinsons   On:   Monday 17/03/2008 @ 19:50:28 Show Oldest First    
chip_board
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Gloucestershire
  #7 Re: Carving  18/03/2008 @ 22:29:03
In reply to post #6 ...
This had me well confused for a while..

"not a perfect radius of circle".. not a radius, that's a straight line.. you mean an arc don't you? - a section of a circumference..

and I guess by '360' you mean 'a full circle'..
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s4xoslut
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Wiltshire
  #6 Re: Carving  18/03/2008 @ 21:04:35
In reply to post #5 ...
It will not be a pure carve though as the edge of the snowboard will be deflected into a parabola (not sure if thats the right spelling but a non circle) shape not a perfect radius of circle.

So you can 'carve' a 360 but there will not be a ideal carve (mathematically speaking) as it wil not be a hairline contact path from a radius, I know what you mean though and it is possible to get as good as. The amount of snowboard deflection also varies with rider mass, velocity and loads of other variables so the carving line you take can vary considerably on the same board. When I was at the world Ski congress they were talking about how now skidding with 'carving' is considered better form for alpine race skiers - can't remember the exact arguments though and its probably not entirely relevent to general snowboarding so not something I will likely pursue as part of my Doctorate. But if anyone fancies taking it up as a uni project let me know how you get on

As for dryslope I forgot most people ride with sharp edges, doh I need to get out of the park and back on the piste Agree 100% practice makes perfec.
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philw
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UK - England
  #5 Re: Carving  18/03/2008 @ 19:04:51
In reply to post #2 ...
Technically speaking its mathematically impossible to carve ideally but don't get me started on that one

I guess it depends what you mean precisely. It's certainly possible to carve completely on edge with minimal slip all the way around except for the transition zone, which can be very short. It's also relatively easy to carve a 360 on the right piste.

You're right though, we're talking about linking turns not carving
On a dry slope it's easier to hold an edge of you have sharp edges, but it sounds like a bit of practice is what's missing here.
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s4xoslut
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Wiltshire
  #4 Re: Carving  17/03/2008 @ 21:42:19
In reply to post #3 ...
I am sure your technique will come on leaps and bounds next week then. I think the best bit of advice I ever got was make sure you have a nice strong stance, bend your knees and relax
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KidParkinsons
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South Glamorgan
  #3 Re: Carving  17/03/2008 @ 21:39:37
Yeah, I forgot that it was called linking turns
The instructor did say its a bit difficult on dry slope, should be going to France next week though (Y)
Ta for the feedback mate
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s4xoslut
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Wiltshire
  #2 Re: Carving  17/03/2008 @ 21:35:21
In reply to post #1 ...
Hi and welcome to GB

Technically speaking its mathematically impossible to carve ideally but don't get me started on that one

I think what your refering to it linking turns as you mention not being able to go from your toe back to heel edge. on a dry slope this is always going to be a bit more difficult in my honest opinion just because its generally harder to hold an edge or there is more friction e.g snowflex. But I think its just a matter of working on your technique - I know people who after 5 lessons could not link turns and I know others who could after just a few hours.

I would say ask one of the instuctors at the slope to take a look at your technique and let you know where your going wrong or give you some tips it could be something as simple as your body positioning when going to initiate the turn.
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KidParkinsons
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South Glamorgan
  #1 Carvin  17/03/2008 @ 19:50:28
k
ive been for 5 lessons, learnt how to turn on my heel and toe edge and sh*t, but i cant carve
i start on my heel go straight, then go on my toe but cant turn back on to straight?
its on a dry ski slope though
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