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 #33 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 12/08/2008 @ 09:14:56 |
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| #32 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 11/08/2008 @ 13:49:06 |
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| agree with Wildebeest on that one. Most hire shops in resort are predominantly ski hire shops, so tend to stock ski branded snowboards as they'll have existingcontact with them, Rossignol being the one that instantly comes to mind |
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| #31 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 10/08/2008 @ 16:55:42 |
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So I reckon I'm a bit unusual in that I used to not buy anything burton as a matter of principle, but over the last 3-4 years I have a lot more time for them. I've still yet to buy their hard goods, but I do have a lot of analog stuff, a couple of burton bits & pieces and anon goggles. I am eyeing up burton bindings for next season (for the cap strap) and they are certainly on the list of approved manufacturers for my next board.
The reason I never used their stuff before was that I learned to ride a long time ago, when it was all Sims vs Burton. The guy who taught me to ride had a sims, and my first board was a sims terry kidwell halfpipe 1445 (old school!), so my side was picked then. Over the years though, I think burton has done a lot for snowboarding, and a lot that it didn't strictly have to do just for competitive advantage. I'm not sure other brands would have done the same given such a dominant position. I think they've been good for the sport. Also, I know a few riders much better than me who only buy burton boards, so I have faith that they know how to throw one of those things together properly.
Someone else earlier on also said they didn't think burton was a particularly cool brand - I completely agree. In "cool" terms, I reckon it's a bit mainstream or something, the fashion equivalent of Britney or the sugarbabes or something like that, not your fresh new indie band...
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| #30 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 10/08/2008 @ 16:31:36 |
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| Ye man the Hire shop in france was just kitted from wall to wall with burton gear,but ive had quite a lot ov bad experiences with Burton so a guess you shouldnt listen to much to me until you've tried it out for yourself.But from my point of view you can do better,unless your buyin their best gear,ive heard alriite stuff bout that stuff but anythin from their lesser range i wouldnt bother. |
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| #29 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 10/08/2008 @ 10:15:07 |
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QUOTE (Cab900Freak - 10/08/2008 @ 03:58:24) Everyone's missing the obvious here,Burton is the gear EVERYBODY hires out when they learn,nobdy who starts snowboardin buys their own stuff so they hire..meaning they use Burton. So when it comes time to buy their own stuff they dont want to buy from the same brand they've been hiring because it'l of been top class garbage..which it always is.My burton bindings that i hired in france a year ago broke 5 times...5 DIFFERENT sets of bindings.Simply.f*ck Burton.
Really? My hire boards were Misty Hammer (oh dear), a Salomon and a couple of Rossi ones. In fact apart from 10 minutes on an LTR board at Tamworth and 30 minutes in Burton bindings while trying out my CHB I've never used Burton hardware in my 9 1/2 years snowboarding.
I'm not sure what the big deal about Burton is. If it works for you, use it. |
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| #28 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 10/08/2008 @ 03:58:24 |
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| Everyone's missing the obvious here,Burton is the gear EVERYBODY hires out when they learn,nobdy who starts snowboardin buys their own stuff so they hire..meaning they use Burton. So when it comes time to buy their own stuff they dont want to buy from the same brand they've been hiring because it'l of been top class garbage..which it always is.My burton bindings that i hired in france a year ago broke 5 times...5 DIFFERENT sets of bindings.Simply.f*ck Burton. |
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| #27 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 09/08/2008 @ 17:07:22 |
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| everyone i now with C60s have complained about how cheaply they are built..... |
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| #26 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 08/08/2008 @ 23:10:47 |
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QUOTE (Plissken - 08/08/2008 @ 22:12:30) Re: the binding fixing comment. I remember seeing the channel system on a board (possibly Forum?) around 5 years ago, so it's nothing new. All the other binding manufacturers need to do is supply 2 hole discs, which isn't exactly difficult. If they can't be arsed, then that's their lookout, and they'll be losing potential customers who've bought ICS boards.
The Forum system was different. It used two channels to and mounted under the binding via normal mounting discs.
The second part is a load of crap. Burton patented the 3 hole system and tried to get other companies to pay royalties for its use, thus the reason the industry standard is 4 hole. Why should other manufacturers have to pander to Burton's every whim? Plus standard bindings are designed to work on a traditional two row mount so the undo stress that a single mounting point puts them under can be detrimental to the feel and reliability.
Good luck with the Vapor. Let me know if the alumafly core folds in on itself before it grenades over a rock, and don't even get me started on the C60... |
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| #25 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 08/08/2008 @ 22:12:30 |
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Anybody who worries what other people think when on the slopes need to have a word with themselves, and this also applies to the people judging or making assumptions. I can't say I've ever been sat on a chairlift or at a mountain restaurant and thought 'look at him kitted out in Burton (or any other brand for that matter) gear'. Yes, we all laugh at the odd ski suit, but that's just natural.
Currently my Burton gear list comprises of 3 Idiom jackets, a Mark XIII jacket, AK softshell, gore-tex mitts, AK gloves, a mid layer top, C60s and Freestyle bindings, a Custom, RED helmet, and a 07/08 Vapour on the way. So, pretty much sh*t-loads of the stuff.
I didn't specifically go out to buy Burton, but never buy new/current season stock at UK RRP, no matter what the brand. In fact, I always buy around this tme of year, or towards the end of the season. Most of it just caught my eye, and because more shops stock Burton, you're more likely to get end of season bargains. For instance, the jackets were all 1/2 price or so (£260 jacket for £130? Yes please), and the Vapour was £400 (£690 RRP) offa eBay.
Reliabiity wise, I've not had any problems with it so far, but as I only ride 2 or 3 weeks a year, that's not surprising. Any dealings I've had with customer service have been superb though.
As mentioned, some people just don't like it, which is fine by me. I just think if the gear works, and you like it, then buy it. If it's not your bag then stay away.
Re: the binding fixing comment. I remember seeing the channel system on a board (possibly Forum?) around 5 years ago, so it's nothing new. All the other binding manufacturers need to do is supply 2 hole discs, which isn't exactly difficult. If they can't be arsed, then that's their lookout, and they'll be losing potential customers who've bought ICS boards. |
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| #24 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 08/08/2008 @ 21:35:23 |
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QUOTE (Slick Silver - 08/08/2008 @ 21:21:28) "but as with life its a personal choice , like women and marmite ...........some men go 4 one some go for another etc" marmite...hmmmmm is that some kind of euphemism. 
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| #23 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 08/08/2008 @ 21:21:28 |
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"but as with life its a personal choice , like women and marmite ...........some men go 4 one some go for another etc"
marmite...hmmmmm is that some kind of euphemism. |
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| #22 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 08/08/2008 @ 21:14:44 |
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" they are technical yes, but they are so fragile."
When you say they are technical, what does that really mean?
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| #21 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 08/08/2008 @ 21:10:04 |
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| hahaha. we cant help it if the only thing mac cant do right is safari. |
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| #20 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 08/08/2008 @ 20:50:49 |
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QUOTE (Bram - 08/08/2008 @ 20:39:52) The same people that dislike Burton also have Apple Macs with Firefox and dislike the Arctic Monkeys!
Holy sh*t - We must have met before. 
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| #19 Re: Burton - All the gear no idea??? 08/08/2008 @ 20:39:52 |
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